tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post2212340720599518650..comments2023-09-25T04:24:45.407-05:00Comments on The M Blog: Neil Cole's "Primal Fire: Reigniting the Church with the Five Gifts of Jesus"J. Guy Musehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691713410311094noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-87673413895566622592014-12-12T10:59:13.339-05:002014-12-12T10:59:13.339-05:00Tim,
Thanks for stopping by and for the comments....Tim,<br /><br />Thanks for stopping by and for the comments. Interesting observations. I don't believe Neil is trying to discredit any gift. What I got out of the book is a clearer description of what the APEST gifts are about. I would encourage to pick up a copy of the book if you get a chance. I found the book quite encouraging.J. Guy Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691713410311094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-64411259778232780642014-12-12T10:46:48.152-05:002014-12-12T10:46:48.152-05:00I have not read the book yet but have been seeing ...I have not read the book yet but have been seeing the need to reconsider the traditional thoughts that only these 5 gifts are equipping gifts. This is a key passage of those who separate believers into different classes or casts of ministry. Leaders vs followers, equippers vs doers and builders. This thinking assumes this is a limited list of gifts in this text. None of the other lists of gifts are limited or seen as a complete list. Why limit this one only to the gifts listed? If we consider all the gifts, are they not all for equipping there rest of the body to do well what they are gifted in? <br /><br />There are scriptural instructions for believers to work and do ministry in every area that there is a gift regardless of whether they have that gift. Every believer is instructed to grow in mercy or giving or evangelism or teaching regardless of whether they have that gift or not. How does every believer grow in every gift ministry? Those gifted equip the rest to grow in that arena. The gift of mercy equips the evangelist grow in mercy. The gift of giving equips the gift of pastor to be a better giver. The gift of encouragement helps the teacher to grow in encouragement. The gift of leadership helps the gift of mercy grow in leading others. - And on and on. <br /><br />Tradition uses the gifts to carve out compartmentalized territories for some to be in the compartment and the rest to be out of it. Such as: The gift of mercy should never teach. The gift of service should never lead, etc. <br /><br />Gift = compartment seems to be very limiting and a gross contradiction of the cross pollinating and mutual equipping we see described in the scriptures. It gives believers not gifted in any gift an excuse to reject serving in areas thought to be not gifted or "enjoyed". I don't have that gift - I should not do that... Bob has that gift - let him do that. <br /><br />Compartmentalization produces horrible mutuality and body building. <br /><br />Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06869272176391202061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-57274026913161791062014-11-06T08:17:27.263-05:002014-11-06T08:17:27.263-05:00Love Neil's book! Here are some quotes from P...Love Neil's book! Here are some quotes from Primal Fire that impacted me! http://stevesimms.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/a-few-quotes-from-neil-coles-primal-fire/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com