tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post6029642959795705712..comments2023-09-25T04:24:45.407-05:00Comments on The M Blog: Rejecting those forms of evangelism that brought us to faithJ. Guy Musehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691713410311094noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-34131118950180106522010-11-07T19:16:19.857-05:002010-11-07T19:16:19.857-05:00Cam,
Thanks for helping me make my point. We neve...Cam,<br /><br />Thanks for helping me make my point. We never know who's lives those 'simplistic' Gospel presentations might touch. Our job is to share, the HS's is to convict.J. Guy Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691713410311094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-80729114662096042552010-11-05T19:37:48.363-05:002010-11-05T19:37:48.363-05:00I got a presentation of the gospel every morning o...I got a presentation of the gospel every morning of my sixth grade year...at the end of the year, ca. 180 presentations... I prayed to receive Christ.<br />The presenter: a young preacher named Jim.<br />The medium: a TV show called, at that time, The PTL Club.<br />Praise the Lord!Campbell Dunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00029065630577152830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-81249490027657877742010-11-04T19:31:57.178-05:002010-11-04T19:31:57.178-05:00Miguel,
Wow, 90% of those whom we share the gospe...Miguel,<br /><br />Wow, <i>90% of those whom we share the gospel with are still involved in the community of faith after 1 year...</i> Sounds like we need to be paying some attention to what you guys are doing. That is amazing! I'd be interested in reading more about what kinds of things you are doing up there under that cloud covering!J. Guy Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691713410311094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-5662495066831275922010-11-04T19:12:09.859-05:002010-11-04T19:12:09.859-05:00Thanks for taking the time to post this Guy. We a...Thanks for taking the time to post this Guy. We also have various methods for sharing the Gospel here in the "other" part of Ecuador and it has been quite effective. Over 90% of those whom we share the gospel with are still involved in the community of faith after 1 year. <br /><br />My primary issue with Frank in the blog post you mentioned is the idea that the Great Commission, in his estimation, is not trans-generational. I have also left various comments there. Peace to you and yours<br /><br />MiguelAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00127896491196953382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-80695035159730456092010-11-04T14:08:05.684-05:002010-11-04T14:08:05.684-05:00Frank,
Thanks for taking a moment of your time to...Frank,<br /><br />Thanks for taking a moment of your time to comment. I would encourage my handful of "M Blog" readers to click onto the link to your post and read, not only your thoughts, but the good discussion that takes place between you and your readers (129 comments and counting!) Again, thanks for stopping by.J. Guy Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691713410311094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-18852023373453538492010-11-04T14:01:03.216-05:002010-11-04T14:01:03.216-05:00Esteban,
Your challenge to live the Gospel is cer...Esteban,<br /><br />Your challenge to live the Gospel is certainly applicable to what we all need to do. Too many of us are satisfied with knowing the Gospel, but not living out the commands and teachings of our Lord. I like your suggestion that we all spend a month in Luke and become true Jesus followers.<br /><br />P.S. If you'd like me to translate this into Spanish for you, I can do it! :)J. Guy Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691713410311094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-41185831045385468862010-11-04T12:12:13.451-05:002010-11-04T12:12:13.451-05:00Guido,
La pura verdad es que no soy amigo, tampoco...Guido,<br />La pura verdad es que no soy amigo, tampoco enemigo, de las escrituras de Frank Viola. Resulta que muchos en un intento de ser radical se caen el legalismo y paganismo. Si uno quiere ser radical debe leer el Evangelio de San Lucas por un mes y ponerlo en práctica. Lamentablemente mucho cristianos norteamericanos hablan y siguen la política de un mormón en vez de seguir el verdadero Maestro. Soy devoto de Jesucristo, nada más, nada menos. Hablamos de deportes, del clima, de comida y mucho más. Nos toca, nos impulsa hablar de Jesús.<br /><br />EstebanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-88830614224911101442010-11-04T10:22:53.988-05:002010-11-04T10:22:53.988-05:00COMMENT RECEIVED FROM FRANK VIOLA VIA EMAIL (was u...COMMENT RECEIVED FROM FRANK VIOLA VIA EMAIL (was unable to post directly to the blog):<br /><br />-------<br /><br /><i>Guy, thanks for linking to my post. The conversation in the comments section on that particular post has been very instructive. One of things that came out in that discussion is that those who are critical of certain methodologies of modern evangelism actually testified that they are much more effective at bringing people to the Lord (at whatever point that would be on the race track, using the metaphor at the top of the post) now than they were before when they were guilted into sharing the gospel with others. This has been my own observation also over the last 30 years. Your readers may want to see my response to Dan Kimball. It's in the comments section on the original post. Blessings on your work, bro. </i>J. Guy Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691713410311094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-18454017124820901442010-11-04T10:17:32.437-05:002010-11-04T10:17:32.437-05:00Mr. Esteban,
Gracias por tus excelentes aportes a...Mr. Esteban,<br /><br />Gracias por tus excelentes aportes al tema. Concuerdo con tus observaciones, y en especial a la parte donde dices que el entendimiento es la clave. We must learn to package our message in ways clearly understood by our hearers. No se si aun has tenido tiempo de leer el post de Frank que motivo estas palabras, pero me preocupa que hay muchos que se estan alejando de la tarea de compartir la Palabra de Dios.<br /><br />Sra. Beth,<br /><br />Thanks! I hope your 2-month checkup goes well today. How is T coming along with the Spanish?J. Guy Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691713410311094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-63977187866295272732010-11-04T10:03:54.221-05:002010-11-04T10:03:54.221-05:00Great Post Guido! :)
I totally agree-
Blessings...Great Post Guido! :)<br />I totally agree- <br /><br />Blessings,<br />BethAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23191203.post-7007851897429575772010-11-04T09:20:04.477-05:002010-11-04T09:20:04.477-05:00Pues, querido y estimado Guido, todos nuestros mét...Pues, querido y estimado Guido, todos nuestros métodos deben cuadrar con las preferencias de aprendizaje de los oyentes. “Los que oyen el mensaje del reino y no lo entienden, son como la semilla que cayó en el camino; viene el maligno y les quita el mensaje sembrado en su corazón” Mateo 13:19(DHH) “Pero la semilla sembrada en buena tierra representa a los que oyen el mensaje y lo entienden y dan una buena cosecha, como las espigas que dieron cien, sesenta o treinta granos por semilla." Mateo 13:23(DHH). Me parece que entendimiento es la clave. Será absurdo hablar en voz alta en ingles a uno que no habla dicho idioma. Será absurdo insistir en tratar de hacer discípulos de Jesucristo a traves de métodos que no llevan los oyentes al entendimiento. De me parte prefiero ocupar la metodología del mejor narrador de la historia, Jesús. Es sencilla pero muy profunda. De todos modos siempre habrá personas que entiendan o no entiendan por una razón u otra. Te toca a ti a los demás. <br />EstebanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com